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    So what guilds are you picking at the pre-re and why?

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    Post by Ashiok Thu Apr 25, 2013 3:34 pm

    Title explains this topic well enough. A simple question that could spark some discussion, especially on the possible synergies over the packs and guild packs.

    Personally, I've been undecided between Izzet, Orzhov and Azorius, mostly. All of them have some really powerful cards and would seem to fit my preference of playing a more control/tempo deck. However, one of my other favourite playstyles is playing a war of attrition, which led me to look more into the other guilds.

    Golgari is what's stood out to me now, and what I'll probably be playing this weekend. It has such good synergy with the options it has bar Orzhov, really. The interactions it has with Dimir, Simic and Gruul are incredibly powerful and shouldn't be overlooked. I find it to especially be the one RTR guild that pairs well with Dimir. Just about ever good Dimir mill card (So the ones which have mill attached to them as opposed to mill being the only thing they do) targets any play, which plays a good role with Scavenge. It's also an interesting combination with the possibility of getting Crypt Incursion in a sealed pool, giving the deck huge life longevity.

    Golgari also has the most solid playables in all its guild packs, I think, given the information from this: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/lv?key=0Apln2HM4aSGbdDJ6MFk5cTBjb09sXzFWdndhTkx2V1E&toomany=true#gid=0

    Also, Golgari's synergies with Simic's +1/+1 counter interactions is hard to miss. Along with Gruul's efficiently costed creatures, and Gruul War Chant, which I've taken a much better liking to than I did previously, at least in limited. It gives you such great value in an attrition war where you're the one playing the biggest creatures; Golgari's speciality, really.

    Golgari's interaction with Orzhov is pretty much nonexistent. All it gets is good white creatures, and a lot of removal. So it's not a bad pairing by any means, it's easily just as good as the others, just less exciting. Overall, I'm hoping on getting Dimir as a secret ally, for the fun interactions and the alternate way to winning coupled with evasion.

    Being Green/Black also gives Golgari the best half of just about every split card it has a colour in, with the only exception really being Flesh // Blood. This essentially gives it a larger number of "playables" but that's not a compelling argument given how deep sealed pools will be with easy access to playing 3+ colours.


    So yeah, I may have written a bit too much, and made it seem more like I'm choosing Golgari for the competitive aspect as opposed to finding it fun, but I honestly wouldn't pick it if I didn't find the playstyle fun. But, as the title says, what are you lot picking and why?
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    Post by Capricorn El Cid Thu Apr 25, 2013 4:52 pm

    I would LOVE to play Jund I should be playing Jund anyways...But...Grrr I already Played Golgari in RTR (Got 2 Jarads and Shizz)

    So I would really love to have the Chance to get some of the other Guild Leader...that saying My Friends already picked Up: Orzhov, Boros, Azorius and Dimir...

    I have no really idea what to do...I'll probably just figure out which is the Best DGM Guild and try to pull the best things from the Packs
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    Post by HSektor Thu Apr 25, 2013 5:57 pm

    Day 1 Simic and Izzet as ally.

    Why? BECAUSE I'M LOYAL...TO SCIENCE! Seriously, I'm just going to play with both of my favorite guilds, even if they have no synergy at all. Maybe I could change for Simic + Golgari as secret ally, but I don't know. I'm not playing to win on pre-release.
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    Post by Rodrigo Thu Apr 25, 2013 5:59 pm

    It's not like you can choose your secret ally.

    I picked Boros because I like how it is in limited. I hope I pull Legion's Initiative to go with it.

    My secret ally could be Rakdos, I'd absolutely love that.
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    Post by HSektor Thu Apr 25, 2013 6:07 pm

    Kirino wrote:It's not like you can choose your secret ally.

    I picked Boros because I like how it is in limited. I hope I pull Legion's Initiative to go with it.

    My secret ally could be Rakdos, I'd absolutely love that.

    Derped hard, I always thought that you could choose your secret ally. Damn, I'm gonna try to play RUG anyway, f*** the system...and my score ;-;
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    Post by HSektor Thu Apr 25, 2013 6:09 pm

    HSektor wrote:Day 1 Simic and hope that my secret ally is Izzet.
    Day 2 Izzet and hope that my secret ally is Simic.

    Why? BECAUSE I'M LOYAL...TO SCIENCE! Seriously, I'm just going to play with both of my favorite guilds. I'm not playing to win on pre-release.
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    Post by Kyousuke Kousaka Thu Apr 25, 2013 6:16 pm

    I'm also rolling Golgari for a lot of the reasons Chris stated above.

    The goal for me when I go to play Limited is to get a solid pool, not really to add to my collection or make any money, so I feel that Golgari gets a nice setup in DGM, and the pairings are fairly flexible in contributing to strong plays.
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    Post by Capricorn El Cid Thu Apr 25, 2013 6:18 pm

    OK now I got it: Selesnya (Coz I still want a Trostani) or Izzet (Coz I might get use of a Dracogenius) the rest IDC
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    Post by Kira Thu Apr 25, 2013 7:14 pm

    Orzhov, because it can run with Rakdos possibly for a nice aggro/burn combo, or Golgari for the same. It also has Azorius for lockdown burn that's not as efficient, and Selesnya which is just meh.
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    Post by Ashiok Thu Apr 25, 2013 7:21 pm

    Selesnya is far from "just meh". It and Orzhov are the 2 best standalone guilds in the entire block.
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    Post by .Rai Thu Apr 25, 2013 7:33 pm

    Golgari is the best choice by far because it has the largest proportion of 'good' secret allies of the guilds. Simic, Gruul, Orzhov, and Dimir all have synergy and playables with Golgari.

    I think Orzhov is also a good choice, trading the other G/x guilds for Selesnya, Azorius and adding Golgari to the mix.


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    Post by Capricorn El Cid Thu Apr 25, 2013 7:36 pm

    Selesnya and Rakdos cannot be Golgari's Secret Allies
    Neither can Orzhov and Boros
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    Post by .Rai Thu Apr 25, 2013 7:37 pm

    Capricorn El Cid wrote:Selesnya and Rakdos cannot be Golgari's Secret Allies
    Neither can Orzhov and Boros

    Damnit, I completely forgot about the fact that a RtR guild is paired up with a Gatecrash guild.

    Still, Golgari is the best option.
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    Post by Kira Thu Apr 25, 2013 7:59 pm

    Gisela wrote:Selesnya is far from "just meh". It and Orzhov are the 2 best standalone guilds in the entire block.

    I actually see what you mean here. Populate will work as well, to make a Swarm/burn deck. Orzhov is a nice guild to make a base from, I just hope I get good pulls.
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    Post by Dae of Judgment Fri Apr 26, 2013 12:29 am

    I went Azorius in the first one since I knew I could do very well with it and the detain mechanic in the first pre-release. I went Orzhov in desire of some of the greater cards I thought could be obtainable. And were.

    I want to go Dimir in this one because I am a member of Dimir and was since I started MtG. I would rather support my guild than be in the desire to actually win.
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    Post by Ashiok Fri Apr 26, 2013 12:42 am

    My problem at the moment is that My favourite guild is Orzhov, I identify most with Izzet, and I'm mostly sure Golgari is going to be the most fun to play in limited. I still can't actually pick between the three. Wish I had the time and money to I to more pre releases.
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    Post by Jordan, Lich Lord Fri Apr 26, 2013 12:43 am

    I'm still trying to think if I want to spend 30 on this, or save it for an event deck so I can go to FNM.

    If I do go I think I'm using Golgari.
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    Post by Dae of Judgment Fri Apr 26, 2013 12:56 am

    Gisela wrote:My problem at the moment is that My favourite guild is Orzhov, I identify most with Izzet, and I'm mostly sure Golgari is going to be the most fun to play in limited. I still can't actually pick between the three. Wish I had the time and money to I to more pre releases.
    I figured I would have a problem with this when I planned out going to all of the pre-releases. I knew that I had to go Azorius when it was because I usually associate myself with Esper colors anyways. I had a problem choosing between Dimir and Orzhov. Orzhov seemed, and was, so much stronger in card design, so I choose that above Dimir. Lastly, the third guild had to be out of those 3. Dimir is my alliance and one that I appeal to most when deck building, so I chose it as my final pick and knew that I would have to anyways.
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    Post by Kira Fri Apr 26, 2013 5:51 am

    If we were going with who we identified most with, I'd be choosing either Dimir, Simic or Izzet. I'm secluded and into science, so yeah.
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    Post by Kira Sat Apr 27, 2013 8:42 pm

    It has been confirmed that I have off work tomorrow! My top 3 will be Orzhov, Dimir, Izzet.

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