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    Post by Shard Mon Aug 13, 2012 5:42 pm

    Dragonic Kaiser Vermillion 42689676
    ACT 【V】: Limit Break 4 (This ability is active if you have four
    or more damage): [Counter Blast (3)] Until end of turn, this unit gets
    Power +2000, and battles every unit in your opponent's front row in one
    attack.
    CONT 【V/R】: If you have a non-«Narukami» vanguard or rear-guard, this unit gets Power -2000.



    Discuss. Also everytime I get vermillion bolted I still win.

    ...not sure if card or player's fault.



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    Post by Ashiok Mon Aug 13, 2012 6:38 pm

    Vermillion Thunderbolt loses a huge amount of power the later the game goes on. Narukamis want to race you with it, essentially.
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    Post by Rodrigo Mon Aug 13, 2012 6:47 pm

    Still a very good card IMO. Base 11k always helps.
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    Post by Kyousuke Kousaka Mon Aug 13, 2012 7:01 pm

    Chandra Ablaze wrote:Vermillion Thunderbolt loses a huge amount of power the later the game goes on. Narukamis want to race you with it, essentially.

    The one thing I'll say about Vermillion Thunderbolt is that it does drop some insane pressure on an opposing player depending on its timing, and if the player's using something like Gold/Royal Paladins or other RG-heavy clans, it's going to hurt their hand advantage regardless of whether they protect their Vanguard. I've always felt it's more of a card to help you set up for Final Turn with Thunder Break or another Narukami.

    Rodrigo wrote:Still a very good card IMO. Base 11k always helps.

    11ks are pretty important in ECG right now, so that's contributed to a fair chunk of its popularity. That's not to say it deserves the hype it gets, because I still think Overlord is the superior Dragon when comparing counterparts. Still, it hits 21k with Photon Bomber, and that's a key number right now when handling other 11k Vanguards.
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    Post by Yuzuru Otonashi Mon Aug 13, 2012 7:02 pm

    You want to use this to cripple sooner, rather than later, like Chris said.

    And you've lost every time we fought and I bolted .~.
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    Post by Shard Mon Aug 13, 2012 10:04 pm

    Yuzuru Otonashi wrote:You want to use this to cripple sooner, rather than later, like Chris said.

    And you've lost every time we fought and I bolted .~.

    ...I forgot about that.
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    Post by Kokonoe Mon Aug 13, 2012 10:05 pm

    Yuzuru Otonashi wrote:And you've lost every time we fought

    Fixed. c:

    Also, this is really one of the only reasons to play Narukami right now. :l Hopefully BT08 changes that.
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    Post by Yuzuru Otonashi Mon Aug 13, 2012 10:10 pm

    Kokonoe wrote:
    Yuzuru Otonashi wrote:And you've lost every time we fought

    Fixed. c:

    Also, this is really one of the only reasons to play Narukami right now. :l Hopefully BT08 changes that.
    Nah, he beat me a couple times, I just beat him like... 8 times.

    And I really hope so.
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    Post by Ruby Mon Aug 13, 2012 10:11 pm

    This is the sole reason why I hate Narukami right now.

    This card is hyped to high hell by cfc, but now I see that I really can't blame them. The more I play the deck, I realize that this is really the only exciting card they have. Vermillion Thunderbolt is pretty boss, but the deck isn't worth anything if this is the only good card.

    Bluh.
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    Post by Kokonoe Mon Aug 13, 2012 10:12 pm

    Queen wrote:This is the sole reason why I hate Narukami right now.

    This card is hyped to high hell by cfc, but now I see that I really can't blame them. The more I play the deck, I realize that this is really the only exciting card they have. Vermillion Thunderbolt is pretty boss, but the deck isn't worth anything if this is the only good card.

    Bluh.

    Saishin's a good card too, y'know.
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    Post by Ruby Mon Aug 13, 2012 10:14 pm

    Kokonoe wrote:
    Queen wrote:This is the sole reason why I hate Narukami right now.

    This card is hyped to high hell by cfc, but now I see that I really can't blame them. The more I play the deck, I realize that this is really the only exciting card they have. Vermillion Thunderbolt is pretty boss, but the deck isn't worth anything if this is the only good card.

    Bluh.

    Saishin's a good card too, y'know.

    ... Derp, and Saishin.
    My viewpoint's still the same.
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    Post by Shard Mon Aug 13, 2012 10:16 pm

    Queen wrote:I realize that this is really the only exciting card they have.

    Narukami: Attack of the Stock Cards.
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    Post by Ashiok Mon Aug 13, 2012 10:16 pm

    I hate this card because NGs want pressure ASAP. Which means this fucker has 4 damage when I have nothing to replace with. /yeahIknowbuttmadfromonetimethatI'llneverrepeatbecauseIknowhowtoplayagainstNarus
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    Post by Jordan, Lich Lord Mon Aug 13, 2012 10:19 pm

    I havn't really seem that much of it on CFC but that just might be because I dont have anyone to play and just do random most of the time.
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    Post by Kyousuke Kousaka Mon Aug 13, 2012 10:19 pm

    Kokonoe wrote:
    Queen wrote:This is the sole reason why I hate Narukami right now.

    This card is hyped to high hell by cfc, but now I see that I really can't blame them. The more I play the deck, I realize that this is really the only exciting card they have. Vermillion Thunderbolt is pretty boss, but the deck isn't worth anything if this is the only good card.

    Bluh.

    Saishin's a good card too, y'know.

    Saishin and Vermillion are the only two cards to really worry about in Narukami off the top of my head. Most other stuff that you see isn't really much of a threat/that different from other clans.

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