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    Post by Ruby Fri Jul 20, 2012 7:35 am



    If my dreadful past are my chains, I'll even go against Destiny.
    I strongly raise my fist at the Heavens and even put my life on the line.
    My shattered soul is here to change this world!

    Grade 0: 17

    1 Little Witch, Lulu
    2 Dream Eater
    4 Battle Sister, Ginger
    2 Oracle Guardian, Nike
    4 Psychic Bird
    4 Sphere Magus/Lozenge Magus

    Grade 1: 13

    4 Battle Sister, Chocolat
    4 Oracle Guardian, Gemini
    2 Dark Cat
    2 Luck Bird
    1 Weather Girl, Milk

    Grade 2: 12

    4 Battle Sister, Mocha
    3 Silent Tom
    3 Oracle Guardian, Wiseman
    2 Promise Daughter

    Grade 3: 8

    4 Scarlet Witch, CoCo
    4 Goddess of Fortune Flowers, Sakuya


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    Post by Kyousuke Kousaka Fri Jul 20, 2012 2:38 pm

    You could take out a Cocoa, but it's really up to you. To be honest, I'd think you'd be better off nulling the cat and adding one to your Cocoas instead. Either her or Milk.

    On another note, I was a bit skeptical of the Meteorbreak until I considered how it's not a bad Rearguard option for CoCo.dek, since you have the CBs to spare after you drop your main VG and get your draws. This isn't like CEO.dek, where Meteorbreak's overshadowed by a fair chunk of things.

    Or Tsuku, for that matter.
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    Post by Rodrigo Fri Jul 20, 2012 3:06 pm

    WHAT HAPPENED TO TSUKUYOMI QQ

    It's funny because CoCo is the opposite.

    Nice deck
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    Post by Ruby Fri Jul 20, 2012 3:13 pm

    Dashing Knight Lancelot wrote:You could take out a Cocoa, but it's really up to you. To be honest, I'd think you'd be better off nulling the cat and adding one to your Cocoas instead. Either her or Milk.

    On another note, I was a bit skeptical of the Meteorbreak until I considered how it's not a bad Rearguard option for CoCo.dek, since you have the CBs to spare after you drop your main VG and get your draws. This isn't like CEO.dek, where Meteorbreak's overshadowed by a fair chunk of things.

    Or Tsuku, for that matter.

    Cocoa usually has the chance of assuring the game though, and I took the option to run her since I could and really don't want to neg her. I guess Dark Cat is taking the high road. :v

    Once you actually ride CoCo, you're done. All you have to do is not play like an idiot with all of the units you're provided with. Meteorbreak is the make sure you don't get fucked over by 11k Vanguards in the end, even though CoCo can easily wreck the ever living hell out of Crossrides on her own.

    Overrated Loli is Tsuku.

    Rodrigo, Boros Lieutenant wrote:WHAT HAPPENED TO TSUKUYOMI QQ

    It's funny because CoCo is the opposite.

    Nice deck

    SOMETIMES, TSUKUYOMI JUST ISN'T ENOUGH MAN

    It really is hilarious, because the Battle Sisters absolutely love the lack of soul, yet work for Amaterasu, the one who's focused on soul.

    Thanks.
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    Post by Kyousuke Kousaka Fri Jul 20, 2012 3:18 pm

    See, the reason you'd want to run more Dark Cats would be to support Milk and Promise Daughter by having a large hand and dropping cards for +5k, but to be honest, you could possibly neg the Milks with Coco, since you'd be swinging for 21k with Gemini, which is perfectly fine if you consider the fact that the extra 2k doesn't really matter.

    Better Promise Daughter discard support than draw support for a 10k booster you don't really even need to make a difference. :v
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    Post by Ruby Fri Jul 20, 2012 3:31 pm

    It does when you're playing against Crossrides, MLB, and fags who'll abuse the f*** out of Great Nature G4. qq

    Idea I had for Promise Daughter is the same I had for Holy Disaster Dragon, to just sit there with a hand full of tons of crap and abuse her skill and barely worry about maintaining Milk, which is actually pretty easy if the game doesn't get dragged out. Plus, it's good for times I can't ride CoCo but need the super powered swing.

    Could try just one Milk, but I swear, everything I run at 1 is inconsistent except for the random Dark Cats I open with in every Oracle Think Tank deck.
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    Post by Kyousuke Kousaka Fri Jul 20, 2012 4:45 pm

    Well, if you don't want to neg Milk or Cocoa, you're either keeping Black Kitty at 1 or negging it altogether, unless you're willing to test Gemini at 3.
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    Post by Ruby Fri Jul 20, 2012 5:06 pm

    -1 Dark Cat
    +1 Cocoa
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    Post by Ruby Fri Aug 17, 2012 10:12 pm

    Edited build to pretty much look like Chris' build. I want an extra Sakuya though.
    Holy shit I ran this deck so wrong before. This beat The End just now.

    Also, I finally see that Cocoa's pretty bad. Took me long enough.

    EDIT:
    Trying -1 Wiseman, +1 Sakuya
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    Post by Ashiok Fri Aug 17, 2012 10:15 pm

    Def max Mocha before running Promise Daughter. At that, definitely cut a Daughter for a Mocha, it's just an easier to maintain power.

    Also, why the draw triggers? You draw so many cards in this deck that for the most part they will literally just be 5k/5k and vanilla. You'd be best off going 12 crits, especially since it lets you be much more aggressive.
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    Post by Kokonoe Fri Aug 17, 2012 10:15 pm

    4 Geminis and 3 Dark Cats is pretty standard. The deck draws enough and you don't want your opponent to plus TOO much. Seeing as how this is true for the 12 crit version, it should be the same for this build as well. Neg a Milk and a Daughter for +1 Mocha +1 Sakuya
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    Post by Ruby Fri Aug 17, 2012 10:19 pm

    Chandra Ablaze wrote:Def max Mocha before running Promise Daughter. At that, definitely cut a Daughter for a Mocha, it's just an easier to maintain power.

    Also, why the draw triggers? You draw so many cards in this deck that for the most part they will literally just be 5k/5k and vanilla. You'd be best off going 12 crits, especially since it lets you be much more aggressive.

    -1 Promise Daughter
    +1 Mocha

    Draw Triggers were just there for insurance.
    I could just run 12 Crits.

    Kokonoe wrote:4 Geminis and 3 Dark Cats is pretty standard. The deck draws enough and you don't want your opponent to plus TOO much. Seeing as how this is true for the 12 crit version, it should be the same for this build as well. Neg a Milk and a Tom for +1 Mocha +1 Sakuya

    Yeah, negging Dark Cat was something I'd rather have done actually.

    Would:

    -1 Milk
    -1 Dark Cat
    +1 Daughter(after above changes)
    +1 Gemini

    work?
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    Post by Kokonoe Fri Aug 17, 2012 10:20 pm

    imo I would play 10 crits and 2 draws. Add a 3rd Sakuya, don't add another daughter wtf.
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    Post by Ruby Fri Aug 17, 2012 10:22 pm

    I mean, just play 3 Daughter. With the massive draw engine, I didn't think it was a bad idea.

    10 Crits, 2 Draws can be done.
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    Post by Ashiok Fri Aug 17, 2012 10:23 pm

    3rd Daughter is never a good idea. You only ever want 1 at a time as it is.
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    Post by Kokonoe Fri Aug 17, 2012 10:23 pm

    Misa Q wrote:I mean, just play 3 Daughter. With the massive draw engine, I didn't think it was a bad idea.

    10 Crits, 2 Draws can be done.

    Promise Daughter's dead until late game. Drop it to 2. :l
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    Post by Ruby Fri Aug 17, 2012 10:24 pm

    That leaves an extra slot.
    Would like to run 2 Milk, if that sounds alright.

    EDIT:
    Never mind, I can just put Wiseman back to 3.
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    Post by Kokonoe Fri Aug 17, 2012 10:25 pm

    Misa Q wrote:That leaves an extra slot.
    Would like to run 2 Milk, if that sounds alright.

    EDIT:
    Never mind, I can just put Wiseman back to 3.

    PUT. MOCHA. TO. 4.
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    Post by Ruby Fri Aug 17, 2012 10:28 pm

    Kokonoe wrote:
    Misa Q wrote:That leaves an extra slot.
    Would like to run 2 Milk, if that sounds alright.

    EDIT:
    Never mind, I can just put Wiseman back to 3.

    PUT. MOCHA. TO. 4.

    Already did.
    :I
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    Post by Kokonoe Fri Aug 17, 2012 10:28 pm

    Misa Q wrote:
    Kokonoe wrote:
    Misa Q wrote:That leaves an extra slot.
    Would like to run 2 Milk, if that sounds alright.

    EDIT:
    Never mind, I can just put Wiseman back to 3.

    PUT. MOCHA. TO. 4.

    Already did.
    :I

    Then update the OP with it.
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    Post by Ruby Fri Aug 17, 2012 10:29 pm

    Kokonoe wrote:
    Misa Q wrote:
    Kokonoe wrote:
    Misa Q wrote:That leaves an extra slot.
    Would like to run 2 Milk, if that sounds alright.

    EDIT:
    Never mind, I can just put Wiseman back to 3.

    PUT. MOCHA. TO. 4.

    Already did.
    :I

    Then update the OP with it.

    Alreadydid.jpeg
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    Post by Kokonoe Fri Aug 17, 2012 10:30 pm

    Misa Q wrote:
    Kokonoe wrote:
    Misa Q wrote:
    Kokonoe wrote:
    Misa Q wrote:That leaves an extra slot.
    Would like to run 2 Milk, if that sounds alright.

    EDIT:
    Never mind, I can just put Wiseman back to 3.

    PUT. MOCHA. TO. 4.

    Already did.
    :I

    Then update the OP with it.

    Alreadydid.jpeg

    Got the figures wrong on Dark Cat + Gemini.

    Also, you could just play a 4th Sakuya. Milk's honestly not all that great.
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    Post by Ruby Fri Aug 17, 2012 10:31 pm

    Milk gives me the ability to smash into Crossrides, so I really would like to keep it.
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    Post by Kokonoe Fri Aug 17, 2012 10:34 pm

    How do you lose against Crossrides with this deck? They have one of the best match-ups against them.
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    Post by Kyousuke Kousaka Fri Aug 17, 2012 10:35 pm

    IMHO, Daughters are only good to have more of if you have 8/4/4, so definitely don't add another one if you drop to 10/2/4 or 12/4.

    Personally, I just like having the 6/6/4 for insurance, but I was pretty sure I was going to neg my Dream Eaters for more Psychic Birds or some other Crit, like Nike, swapping out Psychic Bird entirely, going for 8/4/4.

    But yeah, another Sakuya should work.

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