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    [RtR] Izzet Charm

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    Post by .Rai Mon Aug 27, 2012 1:30 pm

    I think the card deserves its own topic.

    [RtR] Izzet Charm Feat210_izzetcharm_5ozsxiwmed_en

    Even though it's one of the first few cards to be revealed, I can already tell it's gonna be one of the best cards in the set. By far. Will be played in Modern. Will be played in Standard. Earlier formats? Maybe. But it's good. Note that UR Delver may be as good as UW Delver as soon as this comes out properly.
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    Post by Rodrigo Mon Aug 27, 2012 1:38 pm

    It is ridiculously good. Versatile. Impactant.

    I love it so damn much.
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    Post by Kyousuke Kousaka Mon Aug 27, 2012 2:08 pm

    I've been practically drooling over the Izzet cards since I saw the new ones. This charm is no exception, because it totally sticks to the themes of Izzet.

    On the note about new stuff, Overload is a cheesy mechanic, but if Delve is back, hell to the yes for me rolling Izzet. <3

    EDIT: Adding Electromancer to those reasons. Negates and Essence Scatters for just Blue right now? Yes please. <3
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    Post by Ashiok Mon Aug 27, 2012 3:23 pm

    Bloody counter cards...

    Will Delver even be good when RTR gets here?
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    Post by Kyousuke Kousaka Mon Aug 27, 2012 3:27 pm

    Chandra Ablaze wrote:Bloody counter cards...

    Will Delver even be good when RTR gets here?

    If it gets nice stuff, then yes. If Flashback is woefully superior for whatever reason, no.
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    Post by Dae of Judgment Mon Aug 27, 2012 3:28 pm

    Chandra Ablaze wrote:Bloody counter cards...

    Will Delver even be good when RTR gets here?
    Yes. Just not the "deck to beat" most likely.







    Card is definitely abuse-able.
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    Post by Kyousuke Kousaka Mon Aug 27, 2012 3:30 pm

    Dae Breaker wrote:
    Chandra Ablaze wrote:Bloody counter cards...

    Will Delver even be good when RTR gets here?
    Yes. Just not the "deck to beat" most likely.







    Card is definitely abuse-able.

    With Golgari's currently revealed stuff, and Selesnya's little indication of token ramp, the floor's a bit open atm for in-block top-deck.

    Delver will probably be better with Dimir in Gatecrash.
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    Post by Dae of Judgment Mon Aug 27, 2012 3:34 pm

    Kyousuke Kousaka wrote:
    Dae Breaker wrote:
    Chandra Ablaze wrote:Bloody counter cards...

    Will Delver even be good when RTR gets here?
    Yes. Just not the "deck to beat" most likely.







    Card is definitely abuse-able.

    With Golgari's currently revealed stuff, and Selesnya's little indication of token ramp, the floor's a bit open atm for in-block top-deck.

    Delver will probably be better with Dimir in Gatecrash.
    But there is still so much to see that we can't really look much at the block constructed just yet.

    With Izzet Charm and other versatile stuff, it looks to be leading more for a blue-red deck.
    And Dimir was usually a color combo for milling. Which, if it has another counterspell like Perplex, I don't see it being that good just yet.
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    Post by Kyousuke Kousaka Mon Aug 27, 2012 3:39 pm

    Dae Breaker wrote:
    Kyousuke Kousaka wrote:
    Dae Breaker wrote:
    Chandra Ablaze wrote:Bloody counter cards...

    Will Delver even be good when RTR gets here?
    Yes. Just not the "deck to beat" most likely.







    Card is definitely abuse-able.

    With Golgari's currently revealed stuff, and Selesnya's little indication of token ramp, the floor's a bit open atm for in-block top-deck.

    Delver will probably be better with Dimir in Gatecrash.
    But there is still so much to see that we can't really look much at the block constructed just yet.

    With Izzet Charm and other versatile stuff, it looks to be leading more for a blue-red deck.
    And Dimir was usually a color combo for milling. Which, if it has another counterspell like Perplex, I don't see it being that good just yet.

    Accurate.

    I really want to get all the way through to Gatecrash before I make most of my judgements, but I know I'll have to make a choice of what to go with when RtR comes out, at least for the time being.

    I pretty much already decided Izzet colors when I played M13 constructed, because it offers some interesting deck types, so I'm pretty sure I'm sticking with those going into RtR.

    Golgari and Selesnya need to be more tempting, even though Golgari is really, really getting there. The Guildmage's 2BG skill is lovefest. <3
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    Post by Capricorn El Cid Mon Aug 27, 2012 3:56 pm

    Delver
    Snapcaster
    Augur of Bolas

    Techs of Either Talrand or Lunar Mystic and/or Cavern of Souls

    Shit is looking Promising enough...

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    Post by Ashiok Mon Aug 27, 2012 3:57 pm

    Talrand without Phyrexian mana?
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    Post by Capricorn El Cid Mon Aug 27, 2012 4:06 pm

    Yes it is posible we will still have a couple Cheap Spell to get some value out of it...

    It is not like we need THAT much to play Talrands as a Tech...
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    Post by HSektor Mon Aug 27, 2012 4:46 pm

    Negate + Shock + Faithless Looting?


    I'LL TAKE 50!
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    Post by .Rai Mon Aug 27, 2012 4:46 pm

    HSektor wrote:Negate + Shock + Faithless Looting?


    I'LL TAKE 50!

    Technically, Spell Pierce + Shock + Faithless Looting Razz
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    Post by HSektor Mon Aug 27, 2012 4:51 pm

    .Rai wrote:Technically, Spell Pierce + Shock + Faithless Looting Razz


    Well, I'll always make it act like a Negate if you know what I mean.
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    Post by Jordan, Lich Lord Mon Aug 27, 2012 7:14 pm

    I cant wait for RTR, this will be my first block rotation so this is my first chance to try and build something new before anyone else thinks of it Smile

    A pretty good card. And by good I mean I expect to see it in every RU deck in standard for a while.

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