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    Post by RAEG Thu May 10, 2012 11:48 pm

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    Do your thing guise.
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    Post by Yuzuru Otonashi Fri May 11, 2012 12:29 am

    Deserves to, and hopefully will, be limited/banned in September.

    It's used in 2 different meta decks: OCG Hieratics and TCG Chaos Dragons. Lotsa people were saying hit the Hieratic King, who also deserves a limit, but now that Chaos Dragons are rising as well, there's no reason for this horrible design to keep on living.

    inb4"butdragonsneedit"argument

    That's a horrible argument and anyone that uses it knows it =/
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    Post by RAEG Fri May 11, 2012 12:56 am

    Yuzuru Otonashi wrote:Deserves to, and hopefully will, be limited/banned in September.

    It's used in 2 different meta decks: OCG Hieratics and TCG Chaos Dragons. Lotsa people were saying hit the Hieratic King, who also deserves a limit, but now that Chaos Dragons are rising as well, there's no reason for this horrible design to keep on living.

    inb4"butdragonsneedit"argument

    That's a horrible argument and anyone that uses it knows it =/

    I used to think that(the argument) but then I realized it was bad. I like dragons but if REDMD needs to go, it needs to go. Or at least a limit.

    He probably will get limited/banned since the banlist is mainly OCG centered and if Hieartics are a problem there....well you know.



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    Post by Rodrigo Fri May 11, 2012 1:14 am

    TCG Hieratic decks are also pretty good from what I heard.

    My 2nd favorite card is... broken, indeed. Has to go/be restricted.
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    Post by Dem the Dragophile Fri May 11, 2012 1:41 am

    It certainly is broken, and yet it won't be hit until Dragons do more than they have. Chaos Dragons are sacky, and need Lightpulsar and other cards to keep going. If Konami has even a ounce of intelligence (Something I know they do have) then they'd hit something in the deck that doesn't affect Disaster.
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    Post by Yuzuru Otonashi Fri May 11, 2012 2:35 am

    Soul Savior, NEXUS wrote:It certainly is broken, and yet it won't be hit until Dragons do more than they have. Chaos Dragons are sacky, and need Lightpulsar and other cards to keep going. If Konami has even a ounce of intelligence (Something I know they do have) then they'd hit something in the deck that doesn't affect Disaster.
    Chaos Dragons replaced Wind-ups because consistency and explosiveness and Hieratics in OCG.

    If it's not hit, they're high. Anyone with half a brain would hit this =|
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    Post by Dem the Dragophile Fri May 11, 2012 2:56 pm

    Yuzuru Otonashi wrote:
    Soul Savior, NEXUS wrote:It certainly is broken, and yet it won't be hit until Dragons do more than they have. Chaos Dragons are sacky, and need Lightpulsar and other cards to keep going. If Konami has even a ounce of intelligence (Something I know they do have) then they'd hit something in the deck that doesn't affect Disaster.
    Chaos Dragons replaced Wind-ups because consistency and explosiveness and Hieratics in OCG.

    If it's not hit, they're high. Anyone with half a brain would hit this =|
    This won't be hit. Not yet, at least.
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    Post by Ruby Fri May 11, 2012 3:08 pm

    Yuzuru Otonashi wrote:If it's not hit, they're high. Anyone with half a brain would hit this =|

    You clearly haven't met Konami.

    I remember back in the days when this was just the key card to Hopeless/Disaster, and not much else. Dragons were good, but not... High Tier good. They were fun, but just not one of those strong competitive decks.

    Then bullshit happened.

    f****** Hell Konami. You just had to go and make all of this insane Dragon Support that only made this flat-out ridiculous. Of course this is going to eventually get hit now, but I'm not happy about it in the slightest.
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    Post by Rodrigo Fri May 11, 2012 3:11 pm

    I still think they shouldn't have gone THAT differently from the anime.

    You can't really call the anime REDMD of REDRUM.
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    Post by Ruby Fri May 11, 2012 3:16 pm

    Rodrigo, Planeswalker wrote:I still think they shouldn't have gone THAT differently from the anime.

    You can't really call the anime REDMD of REDRUM.

    How one goes from a combination of the Metalmorph Evolution concept, a Horus-like effect, and Red-Eyes Darkness Dragon's ATK gain bumped to 400 to this is beyond me.
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    Post by Yuzuru Otonashi Fri May 11, 2012 3:31 pm

    Soul Savior, NEXUS wrote:
    Yuzuru Otonashi wrote:
    Soul Savior, NEXUS wrote:It certainly is broken, and yet it won't be hit until Dragons do more than they have. Chaos Dragons are sacky, and need Lightpulsar and other cards to keep going. If Konami has even a ounce of intelligence (Something I know they do have) then they'd hit something in the deck that doesn't affect Disaster.
    Chaos Dragons replaced Wind-ups because consistency and explosiveness and Hieratics in OCG.

    If it's not hit, they're high. Anyone with half a brain would hit this =|
    This won't be hit. Not yet, at least.
    And why not? Because you don't want it to be? It is the only logical hit and you're crazy if you think otherwise.

    You can't even defend your "Chaos Dragons are sacky" argument, so how the hell can you even have a point?

    @Cherry: I said with half a brain =o
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    Post by Ruby Fri May 11, 2012 3:35 pm

    Yuzuru Otonashi wrote:@Cherry: I said with half a brain =o
    Voluptuous Eve wrote:You clearly haven't met Konami.
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    Post by RAEG Fri May 11, 2012 4:12 pm

    Voluptuous Eve wrote:
    Yuzuru Otonashi wrote:If it's not hit, they're high. Anyone with half a brain would hit this =|

    You clearly haven't met Konami.

    I remember back in the days when this was just the key card to Hopeless/Disaster, and not much else. Dragons were good, but not... High Tier good. They were fun, but just not one of those strong competitive decks.

    Then bullshit happened.

    f****** Hell Konami. You just had to go and make all of this insane Dragon Support that only made this flat-out ridiculous. Of course this is going to eventually get hit now, but I'm not happy about it in the slightest.

    And then Konami will release another busted exclusive for Dragons when this gets hit.

    What? It's Konami.
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    Post by Ruby Fri May 11, 2012 4:31 pm

    RAEG wrote:
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    Yuzuru Otonashi wrote:If it's not hit, they're high. Anyone with half a brain would hit this =|

    You clearly haven't met Konami.

    I remember back in the days when this was just the key card to Hopeless/Disaster, and not much else. Dragons were good, but not... High Tier good. They were fun, but just not one of those strong competitive decks.

    Then bullshit happened.

    f****** Hell Konami. You just had to go and make all of this insane Dragon Support that only made this flat-out ridiculous. Of course this is going to eventually get hit now, but I'm not happy about it in the slightest.

    And then Konami will release another busted exclusive for Dragons when this gets hit.

    What? It's Konami.

    I would honestly use the argument of how they banned Fishborg Blaster and made Fishborg Launcher, which isn't even remotely as bad as it's predecessor. ... But I can't understand Konami anymore, so what you say may very well happen.
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    Post by Ashiok Sat May 12, 2012 12:30 am

    Why do people always think Konami makes a bad banlist? Seriously. ._.


    Deeserves to be banned because it tops the OCG and it tops the TCG with meta-dominant decks.
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    Post by Ruby Sat May 12, 2012 1:25 am

    Asura Kaiser wrote:Why do people always think Konami makes a bad banlist? Seriously. ._.

    Not saying they do here. Just talking about how Konami likes to feign ignorance to cards that need the hit.
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    Post by Welche Sat May 12, 2012 2:34 am

    According to AllenP Rabbit was tier 0 at the last YCS last format IIRC and it wasn't hit. Konami's latest banlist was kinda a BS money grab but it did address a number of problems.

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