Deck Restrictions

With effect from the 1st of January 2013,

for the Japanese version of Cardfight!! Vanguard, the cards highlighted in the following list will be restricted to up to a total of two cards in the deck (including the first vanguard).

<Royal Paladin>
King of Knights, Alfred
Majesty Lord Blaster
Wingal Brave

<Kagero>
Lizard Soldier, Conroe
Dragonic Overlord the End

<Oracle Think Tank>
Silent Tom
Godhawk, Ichibyoshi
Goddess of the Full Moon, Tsukuyomi

*This includes all cards of the same name with different rarities.

[Example]
OK: King of Knights, Alfred x 2
OK: Majesty Lord Blaster x 1, Wingal Brave x 1
- Total of 2 in a deck, so it’s fine.

Not OK: Majesty Lord Blaster x 2, Wingal Brave x 1
Not OK: Dragonic Overlord the End x 2, Lizard Soldier, Conroe x 1

Well, was about to post these myself, so you saved me the effort.

Seriously don't understand any of them though. s:

What aren't you understanding? I think I have the gist of it... I think.

I mean I don't understand why they're choosing to limit these certain cards, and in this exact manner.

I get how it works, just don't think it's a good idea.

Suddenly I'm not buying BT05EN, lol.

So DOTE and MLB become entirely unplayable.

...goodbye Vanguard

Or, y'know, wait til BT11 and you'll start craving Kagero again.

And the game's still all good, Goku Kagero left unscraped, along with Lawkeeper.

I'm a fan of Kagero but I'm mostly a fan of DotE. The only deck I have fun playing with.

And they f****** killed it.

Then play ECG when it gets BT05?

These are for japanese play only, after all.

I suppose, yes.

Not like I play too much. .-.

Then, yeah, wait til BT11. No point in screaming fire before you even see the future product to replace DOTE.

Hell, I'm a fan of DOTE and I ain't even mad.

>a limit of two cards on the list in the deck
>Alfred and Wingal Brave can only be at one each

...So they're hitting the earlier clans to get people to play decks that aren't DOTE, MLB, Alfred or Tsuku?

In other words, they want people to play Golds, Narukamis, Aqua Force, etc. more.

While I appreciate the fact that they essentially just killed a fair amount of decks that were dominating the JCG boards...they couldn't have just waited to see how Platina and whatnot faired competitively first? They just had to go ahead and drop the major threats so that Platina literally just dominates the top board, alongside other potentials like 12-crit Glory and friends?

I may not like MLB or DOTE for clogging up the leaderboards, but of all things, I don't think hitting Alfred was necessary, and as for Tsuku...even if it was doing extremely well in Japan, that's just keeping anyone from playing the chain like, ever again.

Suddenly, investing in the ECG feels really damn good.

Platina wasn't going to do much, Glory would do okay-ish, and THE BLOOD's a joke.

Done.

My god, you lot should see Pojo's reaction to this. It's seriously so shitastically hilarious.

Not a shock that this was coming. However, I think it's a trial thing personally. The logic some players are putting to it are atributting it to a letter sent by someone complaining about Majesty Lord Blaster, DOTE and PBO being to powerful and that they should be changed for the english edition.

If Bushi establish a Banlist right now, it means when problem stuff does appear, people will be happier. I doubt that this list will stay as it is, mostly becuase of a wierd as Goddess of the Full Moon restriction.. I mean really? That's the one thing off about this.

The Majesty Lord Blaster makes sense, since it pushes Excalpate as a finisher for the deck instead, and DOTE, well of all the cards up there, its the one that can't be a shock. People have called for it for along time, however foolish they are.

They'll push the new products, then unban this if its a buisness move, if not... Well we will just have to deal with it.

After some thought, it mostly comes down to the fact that in particular, MLB and DOTE dominated most of the tournaments in the JCG, so opening up variety by heavily hindering those decks makes a lot of sense. MLB, as we're aware, was borderline linear in play, and DOTE...well, the results speak for themselves.

I'm optimistic that we might see more variety, although OTT players are just going to convert to Koko/Ammy and still have a large amount of control in the game, while Glory'll just become pseudo-DOTE and fold to a lot of the changes in the meta. I at least believe giving other clans a shot at actually defining Vanguard is worth considering.

EDIT: Also, I'm with Johnny. I feel a lot better about going to my exam knowing that Pojo's members are crying their eyes out.

Just so I can understand this right I'm going to ask.

Decks can only contain 2 of any of the listed cards correct? And only 2 in total of any card on the list.

I suppose that means I'll be playing DI's more often then

Edit-Yeah okay I think I get it now.

LOL.
This game is dead to me. Tsuku hit was the worst part. If you want to play a starter that isn't shit you have to play 1 full moon. Overall that makes the entire f****** deck a piece of shit.

Shard wrote:LOL.
This game is dead to me. Tsuku hit was the worst part. If you want to play a starter that isn't shit you have to play 1 full moon. Overall that makes the entire f****** deck a piece of shit.

After reading that Pojo Thread, I'm seeing a need for you to change your user title to "Average Pojo Forumgoer," because that's basically the reaction on both there and CFV's Wikia. Mirite, Johnny?

While I don't think hitting Godhawk was necessary, the game isn't dead at all because of all this. It's just renewing itself, purging what was necessary to purge. You can't sit here and tell me that MLB and DOTE were healthy for the game when they dominated over the majority of decks for three straight sets without any sort of change whatsoever.

There will always be cards people dont agree with on Banlists and Restrictions. In every game there is such Magic, Yugioh, and now Vanguard. This is only the very first list anyway outside of the Barcgul incident. They can see how this list goes an change it how they want later.

There are still lots of decks playable and this list hit both MLB and DOTE whih seem to be a tad too powerfull. (Dont really know much, I haven't been keeping up with tournament reports)

How the shit is the Tsukuyomi deck dead?

They just made it so you can't be a douche and run just 4 Tsuk. Run your damn CEO's and call it a day, she carries the deck further by terrorizing with the stack coming SOONER by 2 goddamned cards. While you don't have a +2 to just cushion back on, you could just, oh I dunno, run the damn Dark Cats, run CEO and check your pretty much likely 12 crits, and be done. Megablast if you want to, nobody'll care.

Enjoy your game.
I'm taking my leave.
Permanently. I don't want anything to do with this place, CFV, YCM or anything like that ever again. I'd like to forget it ever happened and continue my life a happy person.

bye.

You'll come back, you just won't be missed.

You always do this shit, and then just come back. >_>

Johnny wrote:You'll come back, you just won't be missed.

You always do this shit, and then just come back. >_>

meh I was a f****** idiot on YCM anyway, I'd perfer if you forgot I ever existed, to be honest.

I'd love to, but you've posted on this thread. :v