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    Post by Rodrigo on Mon Oct 22, 2012 2:34 pm

    Kira wrote:Did Cifka's deck even have creatures?

    No. The win conditions were Pyrite Spellbomb and Grapeshot.

    And IMO, this memory you're talking about is nothing more than skill itself. You have the ability to see how your opponent can fare and the ability to know how your deck can fare.


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    Post by Ashiok on Mon Oct 22, 2012 2:36 pm

    Memory is the ability to remember specific card interactions and functions.

    Skill is the ability to play out a series of events on the spot, without prior focus on that specific lines of plays.

    Eggs is a deck that requires memory.

    Decks like Jund and U/W tempo are decks of the latter kind, they require a huge amount of unplanned plays to take place, and players must make incredibly difficult decisions in a lot of scenarios.


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    Post by Rodrigo on Mon Oct 22, 2012 2:46 pm

    Doesn't change the fact that the memory is a skill, right?

    And Eggs.dek requires a lot of memory, so, consequently, a lot of this skill.

    I never said Eggs.dek was the best at skill or was fair or fun. I just said it is deserving of at least one victory since it showcases one of the sides of this card game in a very good way: interactions between a lot of cards and off-the-battlefield interactions.


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    Post by Ashiok on Mon Oct 22, 2012 2:51 pm

    Rodrigo wrote:Doesn't change the fact that the memory is a skill, right?

    Taylor wrote:Memory is the ability to remember specific card interactions and functions.

    Skill is the ability to play out a series of events on the spot, without prior focus on that specific lines of plays.

    Yes. It does change the fact. You can remember all the interactions of a Melira Pod deck, doesn't mean you know how and when to use the right interactions in a given scenario, for example.


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    Post by Rodrigo on Mon Oct 22, 2012 2:56 pm

    Taylor wrote:Yes. It does change the fact. You can remember all the interactions of a Melira Pod deck, doesn't mean you know how and when to use the right interactions in a given scenario, for example.

    That's what Cifka masterfully did most of the time, isn't it?


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    Post by Ashiok on Mon Oct 22, 2012 2:58 pm

    No. Literally all he has to do is know the interactions of his own cards. He could've done almost as well without even knowing squat about decks he was playing against. The only difference lies in counterspells, essentially. Against any non-blue deck, he just plays his own game without even looking at his opponent's board.


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    Post by Rodrigo on Mon Oct 22, 2012 2:59 pm

    Except Jund had good answers for it, like Slaughter Games.

    But yes, this deck is extremely hard to side against.


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    Post by Ashiok on Mon Oct 22, 2012 3:02 pm

    Jund literally needs to draw and resolve Slaughter Games at the perfect time, and Cifka sided Grapeshot in too anyway. It's near impossible to play against with a non-blue deck, since there's nothing to interact with.


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    Post by Jordan, Lich Lord on Mon Oct 22, 2012 6:06 pm

    Second Sunrise did require skill to play, even if you dont like the deck you cant just say it's skilless.

    On a dfferent note how is everyone today? Im kind of bored so I might be up for some EDH if anyone else wants to?

    I need to find a new EDH deck to make sometime, something with RGB.


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    Post by Serenade on Mon Oct 22, 2012 7:43 pm

    >Continues to talk about Magic
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    I made a new custom image if you like wanna check it out k.


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    Post by Jordan, Lich Lord on Mon Oct 22, 2012 8:01 pm

    Well this is a card game forum Smile

    The image looks pretty cool Smile I like the art sytle you used on it.


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    Re: The Lounge ~The dumbest and 1st club on this site~

    Post by Dae of Judgment on Mon Oct 22, 2012 8:26 pm

    Decks like that usually take skill and ability to build up. But people like that usually want to just win, as that is what they are doing in tournaments anyways.


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    Re: The Lounge ~The dumbest and 1st club on this site~

    Post by Jordan, Lich Lord on Tue Oct 23, 2012 1:27 am

    Anyone want to play a game of Standard?

    Im bored and I need something to do Smile


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    Post by Armz on Tue Oct 23, 2012 1:35 am

    Dae Breaker wrote:Decks like that usually take skill and ability to build up. But people like that usually want to just win, as that is what they are doing in tournaments anyways.
    Same could be said about damn near every card game.
    Take your sweet time, and win on your own terms, OR, run an autopiloting OTK.


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    Re: The Lounge ~The dumbest and 1st club on this site~

    Post by Dae of Judgment on Tue Oct 23, 2012 3:11 am

    Armz wrote:
    Dae Breaker wrote:Decks like that usually take skill and ability to build up. But people like that usually want to just win, as that is what they are doing in tournaments anyways.
    Same could be said about damn near every card game.
    Take your sweet time, and win on your own terms, OR, run an autopiloting OTK.
    Oh of course. It will be like that because of competitive spirit. You want to win before the other player.


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    Post by HiveNet on Tue Oct 23, 2012 6:57 pm

    So how is everyone today?

    I'm feeling odd, becuase I discovered I own a Playset of The Gates of Dark World without a once per turn restriction....

    Oddest Misprint ever.


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    Post by Rodrigo on Tue Oct 23, 2012 6:59 pm

    HiveNet wrote:So how is everyone today?

    I'm feeling odd, becuase I discovered I own a Playset of The Gates of Dark World without a once per turn restriction....

    Oddest Misprint ever.

    Claim they're legit and take Dark Worlds to the World Championship and win.


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    Post by Ashiok on Tue Oct 23, 2012 7:01 pm

    lol, that made me rush to check mine. They've got the clause though. :c


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    Post by Jordan, Lich Lord on Tue Oct 23, 2012 7:08 pm

    So what does that card do? Im a little behind on the times when it comes to Yugioh.

    By the way anyone wanna play some Standard?


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    Post by Ashiok on Tue Oct 23, 2012 7:10 pm

    It's the Dark World field spell that basically lets the deck work so damn well.

    And I'm up for a game or some. Needa test what I want to play irl too.


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    Post by Jordan, Lich Lord on Tue Oct 23, 2012 7:14 pm

    All right I'll host it.


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    Re: The Lounge ~The dumbest and 1st club on this site~

    Post by RAEG on Tue Oct 23, 2012 11:37 pm

    Wow, I haven't posted in this club in forever D:

    So how've you guys been? Aside from college work ad all, I've been LCYW hunting and other stuff.


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    Post by HiveNet on Tue Oct 23, 2012 11:41 pm

    Pretty good, pretty good.

    Getting used to college/changing my life a tad. And we missed you :O Despite me not remember quite who you are.


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    Post by Jordan, Lich Lord on Tue Oct 23, 2012 11:49 pm

    Im good, I need to quit goofing off on the internet so much though.

    Anyone up for a game of Standard again?


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    Post by Kira on Tue Oct 23, 2012 11:51 pm

    If you'll give me a few minutes to help my mother, sure.


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