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    Elspeth, Kinght-Errant

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    Post by HiveNet Fri Sep 07, 2012 10:06 pm

    Becuase the foil version looks amazing. And becuase its just plus's.

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    Post by Kira Fri Sep 07, 2012 10:09 pm

    If the last couple games I played him in say anything, Rod will probably love this card XD. Plus it seems pretty good. 4CMC for 4 to start, and you only have to use the -8 once for the whole game? And the +1's are pretty nice.
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    Post by Dae of Judgment Fri Sep 07, 2012 10:49 pm

    Card is one of the better planeswalker.
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    Post by Rodrigo Fri Sep 07, 2012 10:51 pm

    Almost up there with Jace the Mind Sculptor, honestly.

    No - abilities is ridiculous.

    And I'll try to run this card on my Token Deck, Kira. :3
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    Post by HiveNet Fri Sep 07, 2012 11:17 pm

    I didn't realise it was 2 +1 when i first saw it.

    I only realised after I'd traded with a mate for his foil version. And I was so very, very, very happy.
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    Post by Capricorn El Cid Sat Sep 08, 2012 1:38 am

    Kira the Unseen wrote:If the last couple games I played him in say anything, Rod will probably love this card XD. Plus it seems pretty good. 4CMC for 4 to start, and you only have to use the -8 once for the whole game? And the +1's are pretty nice.

    AAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHH YOU CALLED HER A "HIM"...BLASPHEMY!!!!
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    Post by Rodrigo Sat Sep 08, 2012 1:40 am

    -Griselbrand- wrote:
    Kira the Unseen wrote:If the last couple games I played him in say anything, Rod will probably love this card XD. Plus it seems pretty good. 4CMC for 4 to start, and you only have to use the -8 once for the whole game? And the +1's are pretty nice.

    AAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHH YOU CALLED HER A "HIM"...BLASPHEMY!!!!

    The "him" was in reference to me.

    As in, I would like to play Knight-Errant on the deck I was using.
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    Post by Capricorn El Cid Sat Sep 08, 2012 1:44 am

    Oh well it is confusing the way he wrote it...

    Anyways...Elspeth is my Platonic <3 PW...She is so cute...also

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    Post by Rodrigo Sat Sep 08, 2012 1:47 am

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    Post by HiveNet Sat Sep 08, 2012 1:49 am

    How did I not notice she is a She.............................. -facepalm with loss of respect-

    Oh well, I still love it. my second favourite Planeswaker behind Jace, memory adept.
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    Post by Ashiok Sat Sep 08, 2012 1:52 am

    Pfft, b**** got nothing on Tamiyo.
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    Post by Rodrigo Sat Sep 08, 2012 1:54 am

    Tamiyo wrote:Pfft, b**** got nothing on Tamiyo.

    Yuri, b****.

    I'd gladly play both together. That feel when you get both Ultimates.
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    Post by Ashiok Sat Sep 08, 2012 1:56 am

    Dracogenius wrote:
    Tamiyo wrote:Pfft, b**** got nothing on Tamiyo.

    Yuri, b****.

    I'd gladly play both together. That feel when you get both Ultimates.

    Redundancy to the max!

    Also wasting slots on this over Gideon for maximum uselessness!
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    Post by Capricorn El Cid Sat Sep 08, 2012 2:02 am

    Tamiyo wrote:
    Dracogenius wrote:
    Tamiyo wrote:Pfft, b**** got nothing on Tamiyo.

    Yuri, b****.

    I'd gladly play both together. That feel when you get both Ultimates.

    Redundancy to the max!

    Also wasting slots on this over Gideon for maximum uselessness!

    Elspeth Wins Game by Herself what is wrong with you...(Althought you run them togheter for Maximun Victory)

    She is actually the Second most powerful Planeswalker Behind Jace, the Banned

    And Elspeth favorite hobbie is reaping hordes of Phyrexians with her blade

    That >>>>>>>>>>>>> Anything that Tamiyo has done...XD
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    Post by Rodrigo Sat Sep 08, 2012 2:07 am

    Elspeth, Knight-Errant is indeed better than Tamiyo the Kamigawa Runaway.

    Elspeth's 2nd ability is devastating. She can also protect herself/chump block. Her ultimate wins you the game outright.

    Tamiyo's ultimate also wins you the game outright, but the first 2 abilities aren't as good as Elspeth's. Plus the CMC 5.
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    Post by Ashiok Sat Sep 08, 2012 2:14 am

    Hey, this would not be true if aggro wasn't significantly better than control.

    In that sense, they're just plain not comparable. Elspeth is a near-perfect aggro-oriented Planeswalker. Tamiyo, on the other hand, is the other side of the spectrum, being the near-perfect (if not perfect /totallynotbiased) control Planeswalker. They both do exactly what you want them to do in their own decks.
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    Post by Capricorn El Cid Sat Sep 08, 2012 2:22 am

    In my humble opinion I consider Karn the Perfect Control Walker paired with Bolas at that...XD

    Tamiyo is a Good contender for the third place thought...

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    Post by Ashiok Sat Sep 08, 2012 2:27 am

    -Griselbrand- wrote:In my humble opinion I consider Karn the Perfect Control Walker paired with Bolas at that...XD

    Tamiyo is a Good contender for the third place thought...

    =D

    Just to contest that opinion, wouldn't a good control Walker have to be one that actually allows you to control the game to get to the late-game, not BE the late-game?

    Personally, when it comes to the control side of it, I think it's moreso Tamiyo, then Gideon, then Liliana of the Dark Realms and Tezzeret are pretty much even, then Venser, then Karn. Bolas is on some obscure island in comparison.
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    Post by Capricorn El Cid Sat Sep 08, 2012 2:37 am

    My opinion is basied as in...Both Karn and Bolas are the PW Best suited to control becuase...

    Karn Is the Finisher every control Deck wants...people tends to slow down and try to play carefully against control keeping its stuff save for when they can go for the Win...Karn Just laugh at that

    Bolas is in the 3 More control Based colors...and once he hits the field is most likely game...

    They are Just the Devasting Finisher that controls loves more than anything...

    Tamiyo as told is good controller coz she can enter...sorta early and building up the control till the BIG FINALE

    IDK how Liliana 3.0 is control based but I haven't even tried her yet

    IDK which Tezzeret are you talking about but they are more combo based all in all

    And Venser is as Good as the Stuff it can Blink...
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    Post by Ashiok Sat Sep 08, 2012 2:46 am

    I consider Karn more of a bomb in any deck. As for Bolas, Red really isn't more of a controlling colour than the other option in White. White, Blue and Black are by far the best control colours.

    Tamiyo controls the board, then becomes the big finale if you can ultimate her.

    Liliana 3.0 is a really underrated card in MBC. Fetches land, pumps Nighthawks, and kills their stuff. If you ultimate her you have a one-card-win in Consume Spirit.

    Sorry, I meant Agent of Bolas, Tezzeret. The all-star of Tezzeret Trading Post, because he essentially fetches your control cards.

    Honestly, idk why I said Venser, looking back, he's a midrange card, not control.

    Still, just my take on it, not gonna say you're wrong or anything either.

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