So Stuff Happens in Canada

1st Gold Paladin
2nd Spike Brothers
3rd Angel Feather
4th Oracle Think Tank
5th Nova Grappler
6th Royal Paladin
7th Granblue
8th Oracle Think Tank

Should be noted that it is English-only, for those with poor memory, meaning clans like Shaladins and Great Nature obviously can't make an appearance.

Discuss, I suppose.

Why is Kagero below Gold Paladins D<

Kags evidently aren't even good enough for a top 8 spot. :3

Without Ji Endo, they really suffer, yeah D:

Updated OP with decklists of the top 2 decks.

Nice to at least know that it's good builds that played in the finals.

At least it was SDD instead of GARmore.

I find it awfully convinient that RPs and Narus have the same % of players...

eh, just a coincidence. Also wtf, Spike Brothers winning?

Shard LV.X wrote:I find it awfully convinient that RPs and Narus have the same % of players...

eh, just a coincidence. Also wtf, Spike Brothers winning?

Spike Brothers and NGs are the hugely aggro sleeper decks. Not surprised either of them topped.

Shard LV.X wrote:I find it awfully convinient that RPs and Narus have the same % of players...

eh, just a coincidence. Also wtf, Spike Brothers winning?

Like I've been saying, ECG RPs are quite restricted by not having Barcgal anymore, while also lacking access to Baseball, as well as Wingal Brave in general.

Spikes topped a tourney in Anaheim a few days ago, without even using Dudley Emperor, if that'll give you some perspective on how come-behind the clan is.

On a side note, I'm a little surprised at how Kags didn't do so well. I was pretty sure RetKags would do a bit more damage to the decks that topped, but on the flip side, SDD's been everywhere, so I'm not surprised that Golds made a strong appearance and nearly dominated everything.

And on a final note...Granblue got 7th place?!

Gold Paladins topping was pretty much highly expected.
Very happy to see how well Spike Brothers did.
mfw angel feathers got third. notbad.jpeg

Happy to see Duke Dragon getting first place

but did you know that Duke is a terrible deck?

Red W Mage wrote:but did you know that Duke is a terrible deck?

Can't tell if trolling or just stupid.
How is Duke a terrible deck?

Red W Mage wrote:but did you know that Duke is a terrible deck?

Except it's not, especially with that extra drive check and the rate of consistency the deck actually runs at.

ECG Golds are also extremely lucky they don't have to put up with crossrides everywhere at the moment, so their only real concern becomes Kags, RPs and other LB clans, which clearly didn't cause as much trouble as they would've liked. In fact, Spike Bros. were the closest to doing something, and that didn't work out as planned, either.

Duke has been a great deck to me. It's consistent and the extra drive check after he stands really helps.

Duke is bad the same way chaos dragons are bad.

Duke wins tournaments the same way chaos dragons win tournaments.

Red W Mage wrote:Duke is bad the same way chaos dragons are bad.

Duke wins tournaments the same way chaos dragons win tournaments.

I dont know Yugioh's metagame so explain this to me.

Red W Mage wrote:Duke is bad the same way chaos dragons are bad.

Duke wins tournaments the same way chaos dragons win tournaments.

Be a little clearer?

What does Yugioh Mechanics have to do with Vanguard Mechanics?

He's basically saying it's a deck that can sack out the a** but doesn't require much skill to use nor is it even that good a deck.

I personally don't know, just translating.

... While I can agree to the sacking and lack of skill, it's still a good deck. . _.

Yuzuru Otonashi wrote:He's basically saying it's a deck that can sack out the a** but doesn't require much skill to use nor is it even that good a deck.

I personally don't know, just translating.

If that's what he meant, he should be referring to MLB, which doesn't actually exist in the ECG.

Duke's a more balanced deck that is actually beatable, it's just incredibly prevalent in the meta for its consistency. Once BT05 exists, it'll start having heavier competition.

so basically when duke is not being sacky its decent but not as good as other decks when they aren't being sacky, such as the other gold paladin variants, but when they sack they can't really lose. In a tournament scenario a lot of duke players won't sack or just do meh so they get flushed by the other competing decks, but probability would have it that the more duke players the higher chance one of them will consistently sack their games. Those individuals who are part of the lucky population end up winning.

This pattern was very noticeable in the Chaos Dragon format, where almost everyone played chaos dragons, but they would be smashed pretty easily by the other decks, except for the people who were sacky enough to open bls/fufu/amoxing cards consistently, who would be guaranteed a spot in the top. Duke and Chaos Dragon do get some merit though, since unlike other decks that are guaranteed to win if they sack, like FTKs, they can still play without being sacky, just not as effectively as others, and the conditions for them to sack aren't incredibly difficult.

tl;I'm confusing myself:
the deck is stable, but not as stable as other decks. They sack harder though, and its not hard to sack, so if they sack they win.
par Duke < par meta
sacking Duke > sacking meta

Red W Mage wrote:so basically when duke is not being sacky its decent but not as good as other decks when they aren't being sacky, such as the other gold paladin variants, but when they sack they can't really lose.

... Wait.
Can't this logic be used for any deck other than the obvious autopilots?

Ghost Queen wrote:

Red W Mage wrote:so basically when duke is not being sacky its decent but not as good as other decks when they aren't being sacky, such as the other gold paladin variants, but when they sack they can't really lose.

... Wait.
Can't this logic be used for any deck other than the obvious autopilots?

It's Vanguard in general when you're not looking at consistent decks.

Which basically argues that any deck could win.

Which...is technically true, but also entirely bullshit, since a fair number of clans are more consistent than others.