[M14] Festering Newt; Bogbrew Witch; Bubbling Cauldron

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    [M14] Festering Newt; Bogbrew Witch; Bubbling Cauldron

    Post by Capricorn El Cid on Tue Jul 02, 2013 7:38 am



    So this are really fun...Cauldron in particular can become somewhat useful all on its own...XD


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    Re: [M14] Festering Newt; Bogbrew Witch; Bubbling Cauldron

    Post by Jordan, Lich Lord on Tue Jul 02, 2013 7:42 am

    These looks cool and interesting, are they any good in Standard at all you suppose?


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    Re: [M14] Festering Newt; Bogbrew Witch; Bubbling Cauldron

    Post by Kyousuke Kousaka on Tue Jul 02, 2013 9:56 am

    Jordan, Lich Lord wrote:These looks cool and interesting, are they any good in Standard at all you suppose?

     
    It's a Limited combo, so I highly doubt it.

    It's an interesting Limited combo, anyway, if you manage to get the cards necessary for it.


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    Re: [M14] Festering Newt; Bogbrew Witch; Bubbling Cauldron

    Post by Rodrigo on Tue Jul 02, 2013 12:06 pm

    Sadly, the Witch is a rare, making everything more complicated.


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    Re: [M14] Festering Newt; Bogbrew Witch; Bubbling Cauldron

    Post by Capricorn El Cid on Tue Jul 02, 2013 4:16 pm

    Rodrigo wrote:Sadly, the Witch is a rare, making everything more complicated.

    Exactly why Newt and Cauldron can actualy make stuff on their own...I think that is quite well thought

    At least more than my beloveb Empire Combo


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    Re: [M14] Festering Newt; Bogbrew Witch; Bubbling Cauldron

    Post by Ashiok on Tue Jul 02, 2013 4:25 pm

    Festering Newt is a fine card as it is.

    The Cauldron would never get taken outside of having the combo.

    So if you open the Witch, you could play them all together pretty easily.


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    Re: [M14] Festering Newt; Bogbrew Witch; Bubbling Cauldron

    Post by Capricorn El Cid on Tue Jul 02, 2013 4:42 pm

    The Cauldron is finer than you think...4 Lifes is qute a bit for the non-Existant cost it has


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    Re: [M14] Festering Newt; Bogbrew Witch; Bubbling Cauldron

    Post by Ashiok on Tue Jul 02, 2013 4:46 pm

    Unless you're saccing the Newt, that cost is really, really high without synergies outside of the point where you're stuck chump blocking.


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    Re: [M14] Festering Newt; Bogbrew Witch; Bubbling Cauldron

    Post by Capricorn El Cid on Tue Jul 02, 2013 4:56 pm

    It Synergises with: Pitchburn Devils, Chandra's Phoenix, Act of Treason (With and Against), Xathrid Necromancer, Grim Return (+Any ETB), Dark Prophecy, Messenger Drake, Angelic Accord, Tokens in general and it also works against removal.


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    Re: [M14] Festering Newt; Bogbrew Witch; Bubbling Cauldron

    Post by Ashiok on Tue Jul 02, 2013 5:00 pm

    The problem is, it only gains life. If it just did something that even gained slight CA it'd be so much better.


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    Re: [M14] Festering Newt; Bogbrew Witch; Bubbling Cauldron

    Post by Capricorn El Cid on Tue Jul 02, 2013 5:05 pm

    The Same was said about Saruli Gatekeepers in DGM Limited and we were proven so wrong...

    Basically, the card has uses and in limited...may be surprisingly good even when it doesn't seems like it will.


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    Re: [M14] Festering Newt; Bogbrew Witch; Bubbling Cauldron

    Post by Ashiok on Tue Jul 02, 2013 5:09 pm

    Except Saruli Gatekeepers is:

    A body, 2/4 at that.
    A huge life swing.
    No loss in CA.
    A brilliant role-player in an easily available archetype.

    It's possible that some kind of sac archetype is viable in M14, but there's got to be better outlets.


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    Re: [M14] Festering Newt; Bogbrew Witch; Bubbling Cauldron

    Post by .Rai on Tue Jul 02, 2013 5:41 pm

    One of my favourite top-downs recently. Open a Witch, and I'd happily take as many Newts as I could.

      Bubbling Cauldron isn't as good, but it's surprisingly a decent sac outlet in EDH if you're that sort of deck. Only a 3-card engine anyway.


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