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    Another Batch of Cards

    Post by Capricorn El Cid on Sat Apr 20, 2013 3:59 pm

    Pontiff of Blight 4BB
    Creature - Zombie Cleric (R)
    Extort
    Other creatures you control have extort. (If a creature has multiple instances of extort, each triggers separately.)
    2/7
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    Art by Seb McKinnon

    Gaze of Granite XBBG
    Sorcery (R)
    Destroy each nonland permanent with converted mana cost X or less.
    Golgari reclaimers resent the gorgons, begrudging the loss of so many fine nutrients locked away in stone.
    72/156
    Art by Nils Hamm

    Gleam of Battle 4WR
    Enchantment (U)
    Whenever a creature you control attacks, put a +1/+1 counter on it.
    Every soldier returns from battle changed: by hardship, by blood, by a glimpse of glory.
    73/156
    Art by Raymond Swanland

    Haunter of Nightveil 3UB
    Creature - Spirit (U)
    Creatures your opponents control get -1/-0.
    The Dimir employ the spirits of Ravnica's ancient, nameless dead, guiding their malevolence toward selected victims.
    3/4
    76/156
    Art by Igor Kieryluk

    Jelenn Sphinx 3WU
    Creature -Sphinx (U)
    Flying, vigilance
    Whenever Jelenn Sphinx attacks, other attacking creatures get +1/+1 until end of turn.
    Few among the Azorius have ever spoken with the sphinxes, but all have felt their influence.
    1/5
    77/156
    Art by Wesley Burt

    Drown in Filth BG
    Sorcery
    Choose target creature. Put the top 4 cards of your library into your graveyard, then that creature gets -1/-1 until end of turn for each land card in your graveyard.
    Common

    Gruul War Chant 2RG
    Enchantment
    Each attacking creature you control gets +1/0 and can't be blocked except by 2 or more creatures.
    Uncommon


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    Re: Another Batch of Cards

    Post by Jordan, Lich Lord on Sat Apr 20, 2013 4:20 pm

    A lot of good stuff for limited.

    Drown in Filth looks awesome for self mill Smile


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    Re: Another Batch of Cards

    Post by HSektor on Sat Apr 20, 2013 9:49 pm

    >Gruul War Chant
    >A harder to remove Pyreheart Wolf that gives +1/+0 to everyone
    >Uncommon



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    Re: Another Batch of Cards

    Post by Jordan, Lich Lord on Sat Apr 20, 2013 9:52 pm

    Oh it's an Enchantment Smile

    I read it as a Sorrcery.


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    Re: Another Batch of Cards

    Post by Ashiok on Sat Apr 20, 2013 10:04 pm

    I read it as a 4 mana enchantment that does nothing unless you're winning.

    So, a decent limited card and useless elsewhere. The reason Wolf was played is because it was a threat, and RDW lacked better cards, and now RDW has better cards without even needing to splash...


    The cards overall are really cool, though. I especially love the extort lord, just being able to add extort virtually infinite times to something sounds amazing. And of course, dat 7 toughness.

    Gaze is a nice homage to Pernicious Deed. Far worse, but it's hard to be as good as a card that's still seeing play in Legacy. Far less of a rattle snake effect too.

    Gleam of Battle makes Cathar's Crusade look like a constructed all-star by comparison, and Curse of Stalked Prey gave things a +1/+1 counter for doing damage, at 2 mana and common. It just seems so... ergh. I don't like the idea of paying 6 for basically "Put a +1/+1 creature on each creature you control." Again, requires you to be winning.

    Blanket -1/-1 for fliers on Smog Elemental was sweet in sealed, but not so good in draft, but his little brother, in a slower format, sounds amazing.

    I actually love the Sphinx's design.

    Drown in Filth just looks too polar to be good anywhere.


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    Re: Another Batch of Cards

    Post by HSektor on Sat Apr 20, 2013 10:37 pm

    Does nothing when it comes to play? Are you sure that giving "almost-unblockability" to every creature you control is nothing?

    Are you sure that giving Experiment One with 2 counters on it, 2 Burning Tree Emissary, Flinthoof Boar and Ash Zealot Rancor'd an "almost-unblockability" is safe? Because that's the standard field of a Gruul Aggro deck "if he's winning".

    I don't think that Gruul War Chant is super-duper broken or something, but is pretty possible for that to see play in GR/Naya Aggro decks. Be it pre-rotation or post-rotation.


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    Re: Another Batch of Cards

    Post by .Rai on Sat Apr 20, 2013 10:39 pm

    Gisela wrote:I read it as a 4 mana enchantment that does nothing unless you're winning.

    So, a decent limited card and useless elsewhere. The reason Wolf was played is because it was a threat, and RDW lacked better cards, and now RDW has better cards without even needing to splash...


    The cards overall are really cool, though. I especially love the extort lord, just being able to add extort virtually infinite times to something sounds amazing. And of course, dat 7 toughness.

    Gaze is a nice homage to Pernicious Deed. Far worse, but it's hard to be as good as a card that's still seeing play in Legacy. Far less of a rattle snake effect too.

    Gleam of Battle makes Cathar's Crusade look like a constructed all-star by comparison, and Curse of Stalked Prey gave things a +1/+1 counter for doing damage, at 2 mana and common. It just seems so... ergh. I don't like the idea of paying 6 for basically "Put a +1/+1 creature on each creature you control." Again, requires you to be winning.

    Blanket -1/-1 for fliers on Smog Elemental was sweet in sealed, but not so good in draft, but his little brother, in a slower format, sounds amazing.

    I actually love the Sphinx's design.

    Drown in Filth just looks too polar to be good anywhere.

    Curse of Stalked Prey was rare, just saying.

    On this batch, I have a few minor issues. Pontiff of Blight is really a gold card. The 7 toughness is a White trait. And an Orzhovian card that's granting stuff Extort is a community White card. It really should be 4WB.

    And Gaze of Granite is really a XBGG card. Of the nonland permanents, Green can hit 2 of them, Black 1 of them. Two thirds Green, 1 third Black Surprised

    Otherwise, I'm impressed with the design.


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    Re: Another Batch of Cards

    Post by Ashiok on Sat Apr 20, 2013 10:58 pm

    In constructed, War Chant is worse than Pyreheart Wolf. =/


    I could've sworn it was a common... Huh. Always felt like a common to me.


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    Re: Another Batch of Cards

    Post by Rodrigo on Sun Apr 21, 2013 3:52 pm

    I hate it how people wanted Teysa to be Pontiff. Being an extort lord makes absolutely no sense to Teysa IMO, since she prefers to act alone.


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    Re: Another Batch of Cards

    Post by Ashiok on Sun Apr 21, 2013 7:47 pm

    idek why people dislike the Pontiff being mono black.

    It's like "How dare they make a card playable in more decks!?" It's certainly more a black ability than a white one, anyway.


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    Re: Another Batch of Cards

    Post by .Rai on Sun Apr 21, 2013 7:53 pm

    Gisela wrote:idek why people dislike the Pontiff being mono black.

    It's like "How dare they make a card playable in more decks!?" It's certainly more a black ability than a white one, anyway.

    It's not really to do with that. Of course it's better that it's playable in more decks, but it's clearly flavoured as a pontiff. The pontiffs are priests. Their ethos is white.

    And as an enabler, the Enabler is for Orzhov. The ability is neither Black nor White. It is Orzhov, simple as.


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    Re: Another Batch of Cards

    Post by Ashiok on Sun Apr 21, 2013 8:01 pm

    To be honest, Extort always felt significantly more black to me than anything else. It's always been a part of black's colour pie, just never done in the way it is in extort. Corrupt, Tendrils of Agony, Consume Spirit and Drain Life are all perfect examples of the same thing. Naturally, the extort lord is corrupt, which feels very black. It's then forcing a much greater tithe on the opponent, which again feels more black. It's not like black can't have lord effects.

    So yeah, that's why it feels fine in black to me.


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    Re: Another Batch of Cards

    Post by Capricorn El Cid on Sun Apr 21, 2013 10:28 pm

    It is really fine at mono black...it is a priest all you want but it is Still a ZOMBIE...and there are no white Zombies in MTG

    Plus all the past "Zombie Cleric" in mtg have been mono black too


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